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Earth Day cynic


by Walt Posted on Apr 25, 2008 under General |

I’m probably what you’d call an Earth Day cynic. I realize that mankind should do more to preserve the life on Earth and more specifically, the way of life we in the Western World have developed, but let’s face facts.

The best way of protecting the planet is to stop making babies. China has tried for a couple of decades to do that, and they’ve barely made a dent in their overpopulation problem. That “One Couple, One Child” concept they rolled out didn’t make them many friends among their own populace either, I suspect. The population on Earth has doubled in my lifetime, and I’m not even half dead yet.

As we’ve noticed recently, the fight for resources is on. Everyone’s assumed that it’s all going to be over oil. I’ve told everyone since I was twenty that the fight may concern oil, it’s really over what oil can provide you. Mainly, food.

Food, water, and air are the most important things for survival. In the immediate situation, the world’s problem is food. The price of corn has gone up because of the demand for biofuels. Every time you fill up with ethanol, you’re helping to support the high price of tortillas in Mexico. Wheat is at near record production, but several months ago, prices spiked because of weather fears. Yes, it was mostly speculators that drove the price to record highs. The weather issues didn’t pan out, and the price of wheat has dropped significantly in recent days. And with rice… well, news reports of average people buying up 50 pound sacks of rice at Costco made me chuckle.

50 pounds of rice? Hell, I watch Survivor and if those contestants have nothing to eat but rice for more than two weeks, those guys go stark raving mad! How long is it going to take you to go through a 50 pound bag of rice? Idiots. Are these the same folks who ran out to buy a truckload of dried beans when the Y2K problem loomed menacingly on the horizon?? What ever happened to all those beans, anyway?

Okay, so what did happen with rice production? As far I can tell, nothing. It’s not like the world started growing less rice. The problem is, there’s too much demand, too many people demaning rice to eat.[NYTimes.com]

Yes, overpopulation. That same demand by everyone for more oil that causes the prices to go up is related to the demand for food.

Simple enough, don’t you think? More people, demand for more food. Rice is being grown in record amounts. Did you know that China is in Africa, looking to invest money for development? If you had asked me, I would have said, yes, they’re in the Sudan, looking for oil deals. But China is also looking ahead for food production, too, and is willing to pay for it:

Africa: China Earmarks U.S.$5 Billion for Food Production on Continent
The NEWS (Monrovia) [via AllAfrica.com]
23 April 2008

A visiting Chinese delegation headed by the Chief Executive Officer of China-Africa Development Fund says about 5 billion United States dollars have been earmarked for the production of food and cash crops in Liberia and other African countries over a 50-year period.

Mr. Chi Jianxin, at a head of a Chinese delegation, is in the country to explore investment opportunities in the agricultural sector.

Chi said his company has the financial capacity and expertise to develop and stabilize the food situation in Liberia “particularly in rice production and other cash crops”.

[via Salon.com]

China is so large, why would they want to plant in Africa? It’s the control and access to more food, even if they have to invest outside their own continent and later pay for the rice that’s produced. (It’s like the US first going to war to protect Kuwait from the invading Iraqis, and later taking over Iraq itself. The US still has to pay full price for the oil, but at least the gas station is open when we get there.)

A side note: Cuppacafe Central is located near the City of Katy, Texas, once known for rice production, but rice growing requires a lot of water, and ever since the 1980s, pulling water from the local aquifer became cost prohibitive. Water for agricultural or industrial use is restricted or regulated, due to subsidence. A large parcel of land near me was used as late as 1990 for growing rice now grows new rows of houses. (Yes, brand new - what real estate bubble?)

To sum, I’ve never held much stock in growing trees for Earth Day. In my neck of the woods, growing trees (in a tree farm) is used mainly as a lucrative tax dodge, a way of holding land as cheaply as possible while the price of the land itself goes up. Trees grown on state right-of-ways need so much watering and additional maintenance that I wonder if more fuel is used in their care than the trees could ever absorb in pollutants.

The nearby city of Houston spends $2 million a year on running the trucks for the plastic/glass/paper recycling program. They sell the bundled up recycled materials, and save on landfill costs that would otherwise be used if the recycled material was trashed. Unfortunately, the city only makes $750,000 in selling the recycled materials and saves perhaps $250,000 in buying the additional landfill space. So, Houston is essentially wasting $1million on fuel and additional labor so the city can feel good about recycling some plastic jugs. Sure, if everyone in Houston recycled, those same trucks on those same routes might, just might, be able to collect enough plastic and paper products to break even.

Thinking about getting a hybrid car? Those save fuel, don’t they? Sure, they can. But there’s more resources that goes into one of those cars. It’s not all just extra profit for the car manufacturer — there’s a few pricey extras that make a hybrid car a hybrid. In theory, all those extra resources aren’t made out of oil, but other valuable ingredients, like lead for the extra batteries and perhaps copper wiring for the electronic motors… well, hell, like I would know what goes into one of those things. The fuel saved by a hybrid would decrease our dependence on foreign oil, but increase our dependence on, say… copper… which is at an all time high lately, too. Go fig.

But lets just talk about the fuel cost differences for a moment. How long does it take to pay off the difference in the price between the normal car and the hybrid version of that same car?
Autobloggreen.com ran the numbers. Using $3.50/gallon prices for gasoline, they asked two questions:

There are currently 17 hybrid models available in the U. S. market and all but one have a corresponding non-hybrid counterpart to compare with. As part of our Earth Day coverage today, we took a closer look at the following two questions:

* Question #1: How far can we drive with a hybrid powertrain compared to a non-hybrid?
* Question #2: When will the hybrid investment pay for itself through gas savings?

For most of the cars, you indeed can travel more on a full tank of fuel. Score one for the hybrids.

But the time it takes to have that investment in a hybrid get to the break even point? Well, go and read the article for all the different options, but if all you did was drive your Toyota Camry in the city, it would take you 70,000 hybrid city miles to break even with the economics of driving a normal Camry. If you were driving highway miles, the breakeven point is a whopping 300,000 miles.

The Ford Escape/Mazda Tribute breakeven point is somewhere above 80,000 miles city, 200,000 highway.

And the luxury Lexus? Oooooh! Let’s just say that if you’re buying a Lexus hybrid, you probably aren’t too worried about breaking even with anything.

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So, no, I don’t plant trees for Earth Day. I plant food crops. This year it’s onions and tomatoes. And my personal breakeven point on tomatoes this year is about $2.00/pound. Yep, I spend about as much on tomatoes I grow as I would on the same amount of hothouse tomatoes. So why do I do it? Because I hate paying $2/pound for tomatoes at the grocery store.

I’d rather pay all that cost up front and then think I’m saving money when I go to the backyard and bring back a fresh tomato for dinner.

Paying all that money up front for something I may not break even on?

Maybe I should buy one of those hybrid cars…

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7 Responses to “Earth Day cynic”

  1. Bekke Says:
    April 25th, 2008 at 12:47 pm

    When you’re talking about hybrid cars breaking even, you are not taking into account the tax credits you get for buying one. They can be significant, and depending on which hybrid you get, will go a long way towards making the car cost almost the same as the non-hybrid version of the same car.

    What’s really stupid are the people who complain about their hybrids not getting the mileage they’re supposed to. Well, duh. If you drive it like it’s a race car, your gas mileage won’t be as good as it could be.

    We’ve been considering an Escape Hybrid, if we ever find we need something bigger (like, if we get a big dog *ahem*). With the tax credit and the discount deal BBY has with Ford, it wouldn’t cost us any more to get the Hybrid than the regular version. We checked out an Escape Hybrid a few years back when we were getting a new car, and back then the dealbreaker was that when it was running on the electric engine, the A/C wouldn’t work. Yes, I repeat: The A/C would only work when the gas engine was running. Obviously, living in Vegas, that’s unacceptable. If they haven’t fixed that, there’s no way we’d buy one!

    As for the overpopulation problem…my suggestion is to start with certain segments of the population that think that having 10 kids is a great idea. Like Catholics and Mormons.

    Draconian efforts to limit the world’s population would make for a good futuristic story concept…

  2. Walt Says:
    April 25th, 2008 at 1:18 pm

    Bekke, the tax credit from the IRS ends for all hybrid vehicles Dec 31, 2010, and on some vehicles before that, depending on sales figures.

    For example, since Toyota has sold so many hybrids, some of their new hybrid vehicles no longer qualify for the beefy tax breaks they once did.

    The Ford Escape that you mention, apparently still does qualify.

    And while I’m very far away from being a tax professional, reselling the hybrid vehicle will mean the tax man MAY try to come and recapture some of that tax break money. Which means you’ll still be “encouraged” to hold on to that vehicle, and since that’s a one time only tax credit, continuing to buy hybrids doesn’t continue to make economic sense.

    Additionally, we really haven’t mentioned the recycling of the lead acid batteries used on hybrid cars. It’s pretty difficult to judge the potential additional ecologic burden when hybrids end their productive life. This I can’t speak to because it’s still an unknown. Do three year old hybrids still retain their original batteries? How much of a mess is dealing with that? I can’t say.

  3. The Perfessor Says:
    April 25th, 2008 at 1:29 pm

    Some folks see things as they are and say “Whoh.” Me, I look at non-related things match them up and say WTF?

    Case-in-point: the food shortage and the gas crisis. Think Ethanol we are growing corn to feed our cars. Let me say that again.

    We Are Growing Corn to Feed our Cars!

    Does this make any sense to you?

    Oh yeah, the savings we are gaining by using corn in place of oil is completely off-set buy the subsidies we use to make it cost effective to make it work.

    The Perfessor

  4. Walt Says:
    April 25th, 2008 at 2:14 pm

    The Perfessor: Yeah…

    NO FOOD FOR OIL!

    While I know that Al Gore has talked about moving ethanol production to non food based crops that can be grown in non food growing acreage, here’s a story that came out last year on the topic of starving our poor to feed our cars:

    The push for ethanol and other biofuels has spawned an industry that depends on billions of dollars of taxpayer subsidies, and not only in the United States. In 2005, global ethanol production was 9.66 billion gallons, of which Brazil produced 45.2 percent (from sugar cane) and the United States 44.5 percent (from corn). Global production of biodiesel (most of it in Europe), made from oilseeds, was almost one billion gallons.

    The industry’s growth has meant that a larger and larger share of corn production is being used to feed the huge mills that produce ethanol. According to some estimates, ethanol plants will burn up to half of U.S. domestic corn supplies within a few years. Ethanol demand will bring 2007 inventories of corn to their lowest levels since 1995 (a drought year), even though 2006 yielded the third-largest corn crop on record. Iowa may soon become a net corn importer.
    [link]

  5. The Perfessor Says:
    April 26th, 2008 at 1:14 pm

    Yeah, but let’s riot over 50 lb. bags of rice, eh?

    The Perfessor

  6. Mike Says:
    April 26th, 2008 at 11:39 pm

    Life will expand until it absorbs all resources available to it.

    a population will always be limited by the amount of food available to it, the trick isn’t to limit growth but to grow more food.

    The reason mankind is the dominant form of life on the planet is because we’ve managed to artificially improve the source of our food.

    the idea of using food as a fuel being a faux-paux seems kinda silly to me, if the price of food went up to a point where it was cheaper to use something else as a fuel source we would, right now the market just hasn’t adjusted to the ethanol innovation. eventually people will be planting crops specifically for ethanol production, but it has to driven from the demand side. when the factory goes online making gas from crops, of course theres going to be shortage ’til more crops can be planted.

    Overreacting to temporary shortages and gluts seems pretty dumb to me.

    and most of the research I’ve read says that corn’s a pretty crappy fuelstock compared some of the weeds out there.

    I bet you your margins for the tomatoes go out the window when you include time costs.

    also I think modern plugin hybrid’s use li-ion batteries now days?

    I think the govt. needs to invest real $$ in research into making normal car engines more efficient.

  7. Walt Says:
    April 27th, 2008 at 2:00 am

    I think the govt. needs to invest real $$ in research into making normal car engines more efficient.

    Oh, that would be the US Armed Forces sponsorship of car racing teams at NASCAR. http://www.military.com/NASCAR

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